Ruffchuck: Taking Ritalin during G withdrawal is going to make the symptoms way worse. I'd stop taking it, if you want an easier ride. Also, GBL doesn't hammer any organs, the conversion is done in the blood. GHB, on the other hand, will give your kidneys a bit of a kicking, if taken in very high doses, due to it being a salt. So, although GHB is easier withdrawal-wise, it's not as good for you physically. Saying that, I don't know of anyone who's had any physical issues from taking it.
Hi Treacs, I NEVER EVER usually take my Ritalin whilst w/d from GBL, but I was desperate for something to jolt me out of the effects of the DXM!!!! It did work then I added in the clonodine for a softening of the blow.
Transform re the problem I had with DXM, I mentioned ages ago that if I took night nurse it was the equivalent of a bad acid trip and was assured that the components in DXM were different, as indeed they may be, however for me the effects were the same, I needed to be reasonably coherant and functional and I was off my effing head (and not off the loo) after the Robitussin!
Also SnrG. I have only just restarted the clonodine as before it used to mmake me too tired and I had childcare responsibilities, and was also on SSRI's (the devils poison to me) so I slept constantly and couldn't use them hence the propanolol. However, I had a trauma recently and also life is pretty turbulant overall at the moment and the anxiety has been raging, and propanolol does bugger all fort me and never has to be honest. I would say with regards some of the similarity in our life experiences that you check it out with a GP as it's used for PTSD, but usually within the 1st 6 weeks of the event to prevent the ongoing long term effects. I suspect like me yours is a sustained situation that you just attempt to regulate as it has been untreated and ongoing for many years as wel as perpetuated in one way or another, however I would still say it's deffo worth a try and better than Propanolol without question, but we're all individuals. I have 2 drops of liquid citalopram (a meagre minute dose) and within 36 hours I cant stand up and when I can I want to jump off a bridge/under a train so bad are the side effects. I'm also allergic to loads of standard meds.
I decided as I am only on the ritalin and pain meds now (apart from the benzo's I get offline only for the G w/d's LOL) to try the clonodine to take the edge off of the ritalin as I do find sometimes within the hour I start to get more agitated (this never used to happen prior to a stupid GP prescribing me SSRI's and deliberately misleading me as to what they were to try and but the practice expenditure as the controlled drugs for ADHD are very expensive. I also find that since the SSRI's the Ritalin/methylphenidate has lessened it's positive effects. That is because SSRI's rot your effing brain, you'd be better off going out once a month and doing MDMA than take SSRIs daily.
Wiki clonodine, it's been registered with the FDA to be used in conjunction with methylphenidate for ADHD treatment. I can't really say long term with regards anxiety as I am also still messing about a bit with the Guice and as it's only been a coupla days haphazardly it's too soon to tell overall regarding anxiety. If I am honest and had to say one way or the other though it's made a much more positive impact than the propanolol. I am approaching that time of the month which usually has a profound effect on my ADHD (hormone related intensity is commonly documented in ADD/ADHD females) and had started to earlier in the week pre clonidine and with propanolol, however, since I started the clonodine I have been uber bloody chilled even with the G off on crap going on, so I am hoping if I stick to a proper regime that it'll ease things significantly, as where I was earlier on in the week it looked significantly dangerous that I may self implode. I mean as in I'd done the research and was just ready for the off as life been a c**t on an ongoing basis despite all my positivity and best efforts and I just have so much external shite going on as well as health, relationship probs, crime (victim of) and other significant top 3 shit stressful things to deal with that I felt f***ed off and worn out!
Clonodine has therefore definitely impacted on me for the better my man so fingers crossed you can get to give it a go
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But Treacs, I am in total agreement re the ritalin as per normal w/d's but the DMX effects were pretty 'out there' (fine if I had known and opted in maybe I'd have enjoyed it) but my reason for trying it was specifically because I couldn't afford to be spaced out on the day in question, it was total depersonalisation and utter effing weirdness, worse than what I have experienced on a normal G w/d LOL so the ritalin didn't feel great but it did bring reality back in and stop the freaky trippy stuff, and after that I used the clonodine to mellow that edgeyness out.
I was just worried about the contraindications of the DMX with Ritalin, but I downed a 10mg valium to get some shut eye in the end, and then cosied along with telly and clonodine and vits for the following day.
Love ya's all. Thank feck for this site eh?!
Thanks everyone ..............................I wanted to try the DXM to see if I could use it like someone else had mentioned daily to prevent the ill effects of G and keep it working like it used to in the early days, but I am not sure that's an option for me. I may give it another try. I'd only had 1 vodka over the space of an entire day and I was screamingly high off my sugar coated titties!
Godd if that's what I was after but sadly in this instance it was the opposite. BT Yes you're right to point out to others that uppers are a deffo no no with a g w/d xxx
